Secrets of the Virgin Queen

Posted By claire on January 25, 2011

Just a quickie post to let those of you who get the National Geographic Channel know that “Secrets of the Virgin Queen” is being aired tonight – TUE JAN 25 9P

National Geographic say of the programme:-

“They called her the Virgin Queen England’s first Queen Elizabeth, a revered ruler in her own lifetime. Yet behind her fame lie many dark secrets, and an unsolved mystery Why didn’t the queen marry and provide an heir to the throne? For centuries, rumors have swirled of claims of illegitimacy, adultery and even that the queen may not have been a woman. Now NGC reveals the startling stories and secrets behind England’s Virgin Queen.”

I don’t get the channel so please share your thoughts on it when you’ve seen it, I’d love to know what they say about Elizabeth.

Here is a video about the programme:-

Stay tuned after “Secrets of the Virgin Queen” for “Inside the Body of Henry VIII” which is on straight after it.


20 Responses to “Secrets of the Virgin Queen”

  1. Jennifer says:

    I will definitely watch this tonight!

  2. Jennifer says:

    Sounds like an interesting program and I definitely will be watching! It’ll be a Tudor kind of night!! Always fun….the picture of “Elizabeth” on their website is kind of creepy…. I wonder if they purposely made her look like a man…. :/

  3. Claire says:

    The picture is really awful isn’t it? Also, Molly noticed that if you click on the photos on The National Geographic website that it names Elizabeth’s childhood friend and possible lover as “Arthur Dudley”!!

  4. Rose says:

    Not sure about that video… Anne getting executed on the grass?

  5. Claire says:

    From the video and the photos this programme does not look good so please do tell me what it’s like as I can’t get to watch it here.

  6. Jennifer says:

    Claire! I just noticed that! I was thinking to myself, “Who is Arthur Dudley!?!?” I thought I was having a “duhhhhh” moment! Already the program seems to be filled with inaccuracies! And to have Anne executed on the grass…’s going to be quite fun dissecting it tonight and then discussing tomorrow!!!

  7. Claire says:

    Please let me know what they say! Thanks x

  8. Anna says:

    Show was mediocre. Started with the discussion “was she really a man” and told the B-town Boy story (sorry, can never remember the name of the town). There was the whole Thomas Seymour scandal and the suggestion that all that traumatized her for life (but it was also more or less dismissed). There was the Arthur Dudley story. There was the genetically male appearing as female story. Thankfully, no one tried to link some theoretical illegitimate child of hers to William Shakespeare. There was also the various theories on how Amy Robsart really died (murdered, suicide, did ER know/not know).

    One thing I did kinda like– they discussed one of the reasons people started coming up with these ideas that ER was really a man was because they couldn’t deal with a powerful woman.

    And my two cents on the possibility that she had an illegitimate child– could she have hid it for long? No, she had attendents in the “bath room.” Everyone would have known and been talking about it. But what if she had gotten pregnant at some point, why would she have needed to hide it? Children conceived before their parents got married were rather common (shocking, I know), and in general, no one cared provided the couple married. Had Elizabeth suddenly realized she was pregnant by Leicester (even though he was married), she (and Cecil) would’ve very quickly found someone at court for her to marry. Everyone would’ve been greatly relieved, especially when the heir finally arrived.

    So I am inclined to take ER at her word– that she lived and died a virgin (and given everything she witnessed in the first 25 years of her life, she probably learned one lesson really well; sex was dangerous).

  9. Jennifer says:

    I actually couldn’t make it through the whole program. I started getting agitated with the “professionals” and what they claimed. Basically it was about everything that we’ve talked on here about…the theory she was switched to a boy because she actually died, the theory that she was born intersex and that at birth she appeared female, but after puberty she started showing characteristics of being a male (which is supposedly why she didn’t have any sexual relationships…), of course they went on about her long fingers (which I kept telling the TV that she had inherited it from her mother) and how she was thin and tall (all characteristics of intersex people apparently)…..talked about the Edward Seymour thing and how she liked it when he came in but eventually didn’t….it’s was not that amazing and like I said…I ended up turning it off.

    I don’t see how Elizabeth could have been male and no one know about it, because as said above…she had people with her everywhere!!!! I too believe that she remained unmarried and a virgin and that there were several reasons perhaps for this. I was trying to explain them to my husband about how maybe she didn’t want to give up power, perhaps the fact that her father was so quick to discard his wives (her mother for example of course)–she couldn’t trust men! (Enter Edward Seymour as well….). You could go on! But in the end, she did a marvelous job and proved everyone wrong that a woman COULD rule a country. And personally I think that’s amazing in itself.

    I kind of found it humorous that the actor playing Henry was wearing the most gigantic cod piece in this show. I know Henry wore one like that, but you never really see it in shows. I guess they wouldn’t fit well into The Tudors. I just always remember, I think it was from Inside the body of Henry VIII, where they talked about how there were reports of people seeing Henry’s cod piece before they saw him coming around a corner. 🙂

  10. Claire says:

    Oh no! Sounds complete trash! Who were the experts?

    I’d have absolutely nothing against Elizabeth if she did have some kind of condition or was born inter-sex or whatever, but, as you say, I just cannot believe that she managed to keep it secret. The Tudor court was a gossipy place yet nothing came out about that. I guess that people love salacious stories, gossip and conspiracy theories!

  11. Samantha says:

    I watched most of this last night but had to turn it off later because it was just getting beyond sad.
    They were saying things about how Elizabeth had fallen very ill as a child, I think they said she was 10 years old at time, she was in playing in the gardens with a little boy “who they said later becomes known as the bailey boy” and they showed her collapsing in the gardens of some place in Bailey, and then two “I’m assuming servants” came and brought Elizabeth inside and the tried to nurse her back to health but she died. They went on saying how Henry VIII was coming by later that day to see his daughter, so they quickly took the young bailey boy and dressed him up as Elizabeth just before Henry was to arrive……You would think that Henry would have noticed a difference in his daughters appearance and not to mention voice. After watching this I couldn’t keep watching it for to much longer. I mean the stuff that they said about her would just not have made much sense, and then going saying how she was a man.. yea I don’t see that being kept such a huge secret from the courts at that time, and I’m sure her ladies in waiting would eventually said something.

  12. Sheena says:

    The “experts” didn’t really seem to know very much. They never mentioned Katherine Howard’s execution or Mary I’s unpopular marriage as to other reasons why Elizabeth may not have married. The credits for the program can be seen here:

  13. Lisa Davis says:

    I was surprised that National Geographic could produce such junk. All the silly rumors about Elizabeth are told here and this website has done a far better job of debunking each myth. Nothing about this show made any sense and the experts – my cat knows more about Elizabeth by sitting on my lap while I read than those people.

  14. Lisa Davis says:

    PS This is one show that really needed David Starkey! I would have loved to have seen his reaction to the rumors about Elizabeth. He would have put tho producers of that show in their place!

  15. Anyanka says:

    I was upset that I don’t have access to NatGeo channel until I read the reports here.I think I’d have been shouting at the tv too…

  16. Linda says:


    As far as the Arthur Dudley part goes, from what I gather from watching the show, they are saying that was the name of the son Elizabeth and Robin supposedly had together!

  17. Elizabeth says:

    can someone explain the video? I do not speak English

  18. AnneN says:

    What a pity I haven´t seen the show, although it sounds like sensational trash. I would have watched it anyway, as I am really interested (did someone say: obsessed?) with Elizabeth I.

    It is a ridiculous idea that you could bring in a 10-year changeling!

    No-one would have taken the trouble anyway. Lots of children died before they grw up to be adults, so another death, and that of a female bastard, would have been just one of those things.

    There were lots of people who knew Elizabeth, so the conspiracy would have included dozens of people around her, not to mention her older sister Mary who knew her for sure, as they were quite close when Elizabeth was a child.

    I really think Elizabeth I would turn in her grave would she know how people are making money out of these ridiculous stories and scandalizing her honour.

  19. Lilybelle says:

    I saw this program. It was ridiculous. I think it is embarrassing that National Geographic would produce something so silly and sensationalized.

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